Dr.Guttler’s Thyroid Patient’s Road Map for Obtaining Their Way From Fear and Anxiety of Finding a Nodule with Symptoms, Cosmetic and possible cancer Issues.
To the Relief of Resolving the Problem With Little or No Damage to Their Thyroid Gland or the your Health.
1. Don’t let your fears and anxiety cause you to loose site of the goals.
2. Benign thyroid nodules are not cancer.
3. Don’t let your desire to solve the problem by the most available way with surgery.
4. Consider the downside you don’t think about when you are rushed to solve it with surgery.
5. You will loose half of your thyroid, and most likely need to take thyroid hormone for life.
6. You will spend time in the hospital to have the surgery, exposed to deadly hospital based infections.
7. You will be subject to possible complications such as voice changes and calcium imbalance, and recovery symptoms of pain, drug hangover, loss of ability to work for days, and the removal of stitches from your new neck scar.
8. Benign thyroid nodules cause symptoms and look bad. Neither requires surgery.
9. There are minimally invasive methods to solve your problem with the least downside compared to surgery.
10 Mostly fluid filled nodules are best ablated by chemical method using Ethanol called Ethanol Ablation EA, or PEI.
11. Mixed cyst/solid benign nodules can be best treated by radiofrequency ablation RFA or a combination of EA and RFA.
12. Your problem with extended time with anxiety and fear it might be cancer will be solved without any serious problems for your feature life.
13. Have no fear you have other low risk options for your solid benign nodule.
14. RFA can solve your two problems and leave you whole.The reduction in the size by about 50% will solve the symptoms and cosmetic issues without surgery.
15. The decreased quality of life issues associated with removal of all or half of your thyroid by surgery and long term dose adjustments of your thyroid hormone dose will not happen. Your life will be normal without reduced Quality issues from surgery.
16. The effect of using minimally invasive therapy is to relieve your fear of the unknown with surgery and cool your anxiety level by a quick resolution of your problem with EA or RFA.
17. Call me at 310-393-8860 or email to thyroid.manager@thyroid.com to begin to solve your problems that are causing you to fail to enjoy your life.
18. Ask for Alicia
Dr.G.
Thyroid Radiofrequency RFA Road Map to Success for Your treatment of Thyroid Nodule or Cancer.
- Do not settle for the surgeon’s initial recommendation, but seek outside opinions.
- Thyroid surgery is not an emergency even for thyroid cancer. You have time to explore other options.
- Do your homework and look on the internet for information on alternative therapies including ethanol PEI and RFA.
- Read about the success of RFA and ethanol ablation PEI treatment without surgery for cysts,nodules and selected cancer.
- Find a interventional thyroidologist to help you toward your goals.
- Send your records including ultrasounds and biopsies prior to the consultation.
- Set up a consultation to see if thyroid RFA is right for you.
- If you are a candidate, you need blood tests, including clotting screen.
- Questions are asked to see if you have any serious illnesses, allergies, metal objects in your body from past surgery, and no pacemaker.
- Set a date for the 20-30 minute office procedure done under local Lidocaine injection of the skin and thyroid capsule.
- Pain is minimal as the sensory nerves are only on the capsule and skin. There none in the thyroid or nodule.
- There are minimal side effects and recovery is quick. Most patients leave after 45-60 minutes observation.
- Many return to work.
- Post thyroid RFA follow up is at 3,6, and 12 months.
- Thyroid RFA is less expensive done out of the hospital or imaging centers under local in my office.
- It is presently not covered but a medical loan can be obtained to pay the physician. The cost of Thyroid RFA is less than surgery and is about the same as the surgery co-pay.
- If you are serious in wanting to keep your thyroid gland and not have the need for thyroid hormone replacement post surgery, call me now.
- 310-393-8860, or thyroid.manager@thyroid.com.
- Don’t be fooled by ads and websites by universities, hospitals, and radiologists who are new to treating thyroid patients.
- I have 8 years experience working with thyroid RF equipment.
- Dr.G.
Dr.Guttler’s Patient Thyroid Blog Post: Information to patients and referring physicians on Thyroid RFA.
Dr.Guttler’s comments:
1. Despite the increasing evidence of safety and efficacy of EA and RFA for benign thyroid nodules, there is still a large variation in the application of the different available techniques among different countries [9], and not uniform knowledge among patients and referring physicians.
2. EA and RFA are considered as minimally-invasive because they do not require any general anesthesia, or surgical incision, or the removal of healthy thyroid tissue, thus allowing for a minimal impact on patients while providing an effective treatment of the disease.
3.Given that they are provided under the guidance of ultrasound, EA and RFA are also called “ultrasound-guided treatments”.
4.In case of EA, and RFA, a small probe (21–17G) is inserted through the skin into the thyroid nodule to be treated, whereby ethanol or thermal energy are delivered directly into the nodule, to determine cellular death.
5.EA or RFA are indicated when thyroid nodules become symptomatic and cause local discomfort or cosmetic concerns.
6. They can be taken into account also in nodules that tend to grow, provided that they are cytologically benign.
7.RFA can be used to treat autonomously functioning nodules, and -in this case- it is particularly effective for small (<10 ml) nodules.
8. Patient refuse surgery for micropapillary thyroid cancers can be treated with RFA.
9.EA is the preferred technique to use in case of cystic or predominantly cystic thyroid nodules, because it has fewer side effects and lower costs as compared to the other techniques.
10.RFA is indicated for the treatment of spongiform, predominantly solid, or solid nodules.
11.How is ethanol ablation (EA) of a thyroid cystic nodule performed? EA consists of the injection of ethanol into a cystic (or a predominantly cystic) nodule, once its liquid content has been aspirated.
12.EA is an outpatient procedure. The patient lies on the operating table with the neck extended, and under ultrasound guidance local anesthesia is performed. Then, the thyroid cyst is punctured under continuous ultrasound visualization, and the cystic fluid is aspirated to the maximum extent possible. Once the fluid component has been aspirated, ethanol is slowly injected into the cystic cavity. Usually, ethanol is injected in an amount corresponding to ~50% of the aspirated liquid volume. After EA, a small plaster is applied to the neck, and the patient remains under observation for about 30 min before returning to activity.
13.How is a thermal ablation RFA of a benign thyroid nodule performed? RFA consists of the ablation of a solid (or predominantly solid) nodule with the application of thermal energy to the nodule.
14.RFA procedures are performed in an outpatient setting, without the use of general anesthesia. Local anesthesia is generally used.
15. During the procedure, the patient should lay on the operating table with the neck extended. Under ultrasound guidance the operator injects a small amount of local anesthetic around the thyroid capsule and into the surrounding soft tissues of the neck.
16. With RFA a single device is inserted into the nodule, and moved several times to achieve ablation of the whole nodule (moving-shot technique)
17.According to the volume of the nodule and the technique used, the ablation can last from few minutes to up to 30 minutes approximately.
18.During the procedure, the patient can speak to the operator, and the ablation can be stopped immediately in case of discomfort or pain.
19.In general, patients can return to their usual activities the day after the intervention.
20. The only special precautions that must be taken before the procedure concern patients with voice changes, previous neck surgery, patients on oral anticoagulants or antiplatelet drugs, and patients with pacemakers or implantable-cardioverter defibrillators (in case RFA is performed with monopolar electrodes).
21.Particularly, before the procedure, thyroid and vocal cord function, comorbidities, and contraindications to treatment should be evaluated; laryngoscopy is recommended in patients with hoarseness, previous neck surgery, or with nodules close to critical structures.
22.Although MITT carry a low risk of major bleeding, oral anticoagulants or antiplatelet drugs can lead to prolonged bleeding or bruising. Before the procedure, it is recommended withholding oral anticoagulants.
23.Patients with a high-intermediate thromboembolic risk require bridging warfarin with low molecular weight heparin, while patients with low thromboembolic risk do not.
24.New oral anticoagulants, which include dabigatran, rivaroxaban, apixaban, and edoxaban, should be hold for 24–36 h and can be safely resumed 24 h after the procedure.
25.RFA performed with monopolar electrodes may cause electromagnetic interferences, as the heat at the tip of the electrode is produced by an alternating electric field, which might interfere with cardiac pacemakers (PM) or implantable-cardioverter defibrillators (ICD) functions.
26. In patients with a cardiac activity that is Pacemaker-dependent, the operator should place a magnet over the device and peripheral pulse should be monitored during the procedure.
27.. The magnet placed over the cardiac region is considered to be safer than any PM reprogramming, as it allows an immediate restoration of the PM functions after the procedure.
28.What may a patient expect after the procedure? Patients may briefly experience mild pain in the days following the treatment; which usually extends as far as the jaw and can be relieved by oral painkillers.
29. Apply an ice pack on the neck with mild pressure, and to keep the patient under observation for a couple of hours.
30.A minority of patients (~10%) may experience neck pain with sensation of local heat sometimes radiating to the jaw, ipsilateral dental arch, mandibular angle, or shoulder.
31.Recommended avoiding strenuous physical exercise, as well as overextending the throat in the first few days after MITT in order to support the healing process.
32.What happens to the nodule? With EA, due to the aspiration of the fluid component, the nodule is immediately reduced in size after the treatment, with an immediate improvement of patients’ symptoms.
33. It achieves a volume reduction of 60 to 80% at 6 months from treatment.
33.The nodule might appear even slightly enlarged due to the edema occurring after the RFA treatment, and patients might not experience an immediate benefit.
34.The nodule continues to decrease in size, with a parallel symptom improvement, up to its maximum volume reduction, which is usually achieved between 6 and 24 months after the treatment.
35.The technique efficacy of RFA is generally achieved in as much as 90% of cases.
36.Which side effects and complications might occur? The overall likelihood of modest or severe complications is low, and -when occurring- complications are in the vast majority of cases of minor entity. The most common complications and side effects are bruising and mild pain in the neck. The risk of scarring is minimal. In exceptional cases, there may be temporary hoarseness or nodule rupture and infections.
37.Side effects (7–30%) include: pain, bruising, fever, nodule swelling, cough, and vasovagal reactions.
37.Immediate complications include: hoarsenes/voice changes, and skin burns.
38.Delayed complications include: bruising, nodule pseudocystic transformation (also known as nodule rupture) with or without fasciitis, and thyroid dysfunction.
39.Hoarseness/voice changes occur in 0.8–2.4% of patients. They can be due to the thermal injury to the laryngeal nerve or to its compression caused by perinodular edema and generally they resolve spontaneously with the administration of corticosteroids.
40.Cold solution of 5% dextrose may be injected close to the nerve route as a rescue maneuver.
41. The risk of skin burn is extremely low [27, 30, 33]. In order to avoid it, it can be useful to inject cold fluid in the subcutaneous layers in order to create a cushion that will raise the skin and increase the distance from the nodule.
42.Bruising occurs in 0.8–2.5% of patients, and generally it appears within a couple of hours-days after the procedure, disappearing in a few days-weeks.
43.. Pseudocystic transformations/nodule rupture occur in 0.3–4.9% of patients. They manifest as a painful sudden swelling a few days after the procedure.
44. In case of fever and persistence of symptoms, patients should be treated with antibiotics and analgesics.
45.Can the nodule regrow after the procedure? After MITT, the treated nodule usually shrinks and changes US features, but a small “remnant” nodule remains. Over time, some nodules might regrow. Regrowth is often asymptomatic and does not necessarily require further treatments.
46.Based on the literature, regrowth (which should be defined as a > 50% increase as compared to the smallest recorded volume) occured in as much as one third of patients in a retrospective 5-year analysis.
47.Regrowth is often asymptomatic and does not require further treatments. In case of rapid nodule regrowth, clinicians might consider US-guided FNAC.
48.Thyroid nodules can be treated more than once with RFA.In particular, it has been suggested that one session is enough for small nodules, while 2 or 3 sessions may be required for medium or large size nodules.
49.However, the decision of performing more than one EA or RFA session should be based on patient’s complaints (symptoms and cosmetic concerns) rather than the amount of nodule volume reduction, and it should be limited to patients with unresolved clinical problems.
50.Will the procedure impact on future thyroid surgery? The surgical removal of thyroid nodules appears to be minimally impacted by EA or RFA.
51.What are the pros and cons of EA and RFA in comparison to surgery? They are outpatient procedures with good efficacy, minimal recovery time, and few adverse events.
52..They do not require levothyroxine replacement therapy.
53.Standard thyroid surgery is invasive, requires general anesthesia, and has some drawbacks. The duration of a procedure is 2 to 3 h, it requires a hospital stay of 1 or 2 days and the recovery time is usually 1 to 2 weeks. Surgery leads to complete removal of the thyroid nodule, which allows for final pathology, and usually there is no need to repeat the procedure. On the other hand, it leaves a neck scar, it often requires the introduction of levothyroxine replacement therapy, and it carries a higher risk of permanent voice damage, bleeding complications and postoperative pain and -in the case of thyroidectomy- also of hypoparathyroidism.
54. RFA does not leave scars, does not require replacement therapy, and the risk of permanent voice damage is very low.
55. What are the pros and cons of RFA in comparison to radioactive iodine for the treatment of AFTN?
56.RFA can be used for the treatment of small AFTN. Its advantages include a rapid reduction of nodule volume and no need of hormonal replacement therapy. Also, it can be applied in pregnant and breastfeeding women.
57. As a rule of thumb, RFA should be used as a treatment for AFTN only in selected cases, preferably in small AFTN when RAI is contraindicated (pregnant and breastfeeding women) or refused by patient, or in women with an immediate desire to conceive.
58. Call me for an evaluation if you have a benign thyroid nodule.
310-393-8860 or email to thyroid.manager@thyroid.com.
Ask for Alicia
Dr.G.
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Thyroid RF Ablation
is the FUTURE answer
to unnecessary surgery

Meet Dr. Guttler

The Thyroid Center of Santa Monica is a multi-service center established for the diagnosis and treatment of thyroid disorders in Santa Monica, California. Since 1974, Dr. Richard Guttler, clinical thyroidologist and board-certified endocrinologist, has been the director for the Thyroid Center of Santa Monica. Dr. Guttler is also the sole owner of the Endocrine Neck Ultrasound Lab of Southern California, an extension of the thyroid center. He is an interventioal thyroidologist expert in ablation procedures with ethanol PEI and the new for the US radiofrequency ablation RFA.
Non-Surgical Thyroid Cancer Treatment
Your one-stop-shop for the diagnosis and treatment of thyroid conditions. My special expertise from 40 years of experience treating patients with thyroid nodules and cancer will give the patient the best chance to get the correct treatment and avoid unnecessary thyroid surgery.
Our practice is highly specialized and is one of only a few centers across the United States focused entirely on thyroid problems. We commonly serve patients who have been diagnosed with thyroid nodules,cancer, hypothyroidism, hyperthyroidism, Hashimoto’s thyroiditis, and other conditions involving the thyroid. For patients diagnosed with thyroid cancer and thyroid nodules, we offer innovative, advanced techniques that are smart, cost-effective alternatives to surgery. Interventional thyroid procedures include ultrasound-guided percutaneous ethanol injections (PEI) for cysts and thyroid cancer lymph nodes, radiofrequency ablation for solid nodules. Because of our specialty services, patients come from all over the world to see Dr. Guttler. In addition, endocrinologists travel to Dr. Guttler’s office for his workshops and Masters classes offering advanced training and knowledge in thyroidology. Comments on a Yelp Review of my care for a patient with a large benign thyroid nodule. In Honor of a True Thyroid Specialist: “Dr.Guttler Does Everything Himself.” A true thyroid specialist should take command of the case. He needs to do the work himself. He needs to do the evaluation,draw his own blood and do a detailed neck ultrasound including neck lymph nodes,do the FNA, be able to evaluate to cells under the microscope, send molecular markers if needed, and most important do alternative treatments in his office. Ethanol and radiofrequency ablation expertise should be in his “tool Kit”. The patient wrote this about the prior physicians evaluating his case. “I felt like while each medical professional was competent at his/her piece of the puzzle, nobody was really looking at my case as an overall picture, and I never felt that there was anybody “in charge” of my case. I felt like each person was looking at his/her respective “tree,” but no one was looking holistically at the “forest.” DR.Guttler’s comments on the Yelp review:
- This is a classic case of the hoops patients have to go through to get a complete evaluation and recommendation on what to do with their benign thyroid nodule.
- First the primary that sends to the radiologist for ultrasound, after weeks back to radiology for a biopsy.Then after waiting for the pathology report they go back to their physician who tells them to see a surgeon. The surgeon says there is only one way to treat your thyroid problem and that is surgery. There was no alternatives given to surgery. He refused surgery but finally felt he had no choice and went to another university hospital for the whole re-workup. The results were the same. A benign thyroid nodule.
- He had two different evaluations from university thyroid specialists at two university centers in in New York City and Los Angeles. He had surgery planned and days before the planned surgery he tried one more time to avoid surgery. He canceled the elective surgery.
- He stated in the Yelp review “I found in Santa Monica , California, Dr. Richard Guttler. He did not appear to be affiliated with a major hospital; he seemed to be more of a “one-man band” of some kind. I met with Dr. Guttler and I realized rapidly that his approach is the approach I was looking for”
- “Dr. Guttler investigates your case, performs the blood tests, performs the sonogram, performs the biopsy, and does all of the evaluation himself. He personally handles every single aspect of your case — from start to finish — entirely by himself. He becomes an expert on your case, taking full responsibility for every element of the evaluation and diagnosis and treatment”.
- “Not only did I prefer Dr. Guttler’s holistic approach, but he literally used a methodology which was not used on me at New York Hospital/Cornell in Manhattan, one of the most prestigious hospitals in the country.”
- “Dr. Guttler agreed that something had to be done to reduce the size of the nodule. Dr. Guttler told me about a technique, new in the United States, but in use around the world for many years, called radio frequency ablation.
- “Dr. Guttler told me about a technique, new in the United States, but in use around the world for many years, called radio frequency ablation. This is a non-invasive procedure which uses harmless radio waves to shrink the nodule.”
- “This was the kind of non-scar procedure I had been hoping for for many years!”
- “Dr. Guttler performed the procedure, and the nodule shrunk by at least 75%. The procedure was a complete success! The nodule was vanquished, and I had no scar to show for my trouble.”
- “Dr. Guttler. He has literally personally pioneered the use of radio frequency ablation on thyroid nodules in the United States. Dr. Guttler has my highest and unqualified recommendation and respect!”
- Complete Yelp review listed below.
- date of review 11/2020
- If this story sounds familiar it is because most physicians will not refer you for alternative treatment just sends you to surgery.
- Call me at 310-393-8860 or secure email to thyroid.manager@protonmail.com. Ask for Alicia for details on thyroid RFA.
- DR.G.
The complete Yelp review “A doctor discovered a nodule on my thyroid about 20 years ago. It was benign, and small. Over time it grew to be large enough to be a significant problem. One could see an obvious bulge in my neck when I swallowed. A famous endocrinologist at New York Hospital/Cornell, in Manhattan, New York, strongly advised me to have the nodule surgically removed. The surgeon to whom this doctor referred me agreed with the recommendation of surgery But I was unwilling to accept the resulting permanent surgical scar on my neck. I moved to Los Angeles, and engaged a thyroid specialist at a large hospital in Los Angeles to evaluate my case anew. I went for another round of blood tests and sonograms and biopsies and evaluations. This doctor, and the surgeon to whom this doctor referred me, both recommended surgery as well. but I still was reluctant to accept a scar. In addition to my reluctance to accept a scar, my experience in New York and my first experience in Los Angeles were very similar and not reassuring. In both experiences an endocrinologist evaluated me; somebody else gave blood tests; somebody else performed a biopsy; someone else performed a sonogram, and I was referred to a surgeon who made a recommendation; and these pieces were summarized in a report which circled back to the endocrinologist. I felt like while each medical professional was competent at his/her piece of the puzzle, nobody was really looking at my case as an overall picture, and I never felt that there was anybody “in charge” of my case. I felt like each person was looking at his/her respective “tree,” but no one was looking holistically at the “forest.” Nonetheless this unanimity of opinion on two coasts in favor of surgery caused me to relent. I scheduled a surgery to have my thyroid nodule (and, likely, most or all of my thyroid) removed. A few days before the scheduled surgery, while I was going through the pre-operation process, I decided that, once again, I refused to have invasive surgery. The other thing I learned is that at big hospital complexes, if there is even the slightest chance of cancer — even if it is as low as around 5% to 10% — the standard protocol is simply to have the organ in question removed. A big hospital system would rather have a scar on your neck then take the chance of you dying from cancer on their watch. With a clean slate I looked for a new approach. I found in Santa Monica , California, Dr. Richard Guttler. He did not appear to be affiliated with a major hospital; he seemed to be more of a “one-man band” of some kind. I met with Dr. Guttler and I realized rapidly that his approach is the approach I was looking for. Dr. Guttler investigates your case, performs the blood tests, performs the sonogram, performs the biopsy, and does all of the evaluation himself. He personally handles every single aspect of your case — from start to finish — entirely by himself. He becomes an expert on your case, taking full responsibility for every element of the evaluation and diagnosis and treatment. In addition, he turns out to be one of the leading experts on thyroid nodules in the entire country. I actually have concluded that he is the leading medical expert on thyroid nodules in the entire country. Not only did I prefer Dr. Guttler’s holistic approach, but he literally used a methodology which was not used on me at New York Hospital/Cornell in Manhattan, one of the most prestigious hospitals in the country. When I had biopsies taken at Cornell the doctor did not use a real-time sonogram image to guide the insertion of the needle. At Cornell, for whatever reason, they are effectively sticking the biopsy needle in what they hope is the right place. Dr. Guttler was the first doctor I encountered who used a real-time sonogram to carefully and deliberately place the needle in exactly the right spot in the thyroid nodule for an accurate biopsy sample. In my case Dr. Guttler agreed with the other doctors and also advised that I could not allow the nodule to keep growing on its present trajectory. Dr. Guttler agreed that something had to be done to reduce the size of the nodule. Dr. Guttler told me about a technique, new in the United States, but in use around the world for many years, called radio frequency ablation. This is a non-invasive procedure which uses harmless radio waves to shrink the nodule. This was the kind of non-scar procedure I had been hoping for for many years! Dr. Guttler performed the procedure, and the nodule shrunk by at least 75%. The procedure was a complete success! The nodule was vanquished, and I had no scar to show for my trouble. I feel very fortunate to have stumbled upon Dr. Guttler. He has literally personally pioneered the use of radio frequency ablation on thyroid nodules in the United States. Dr. Guttler has my highest and unqualified recommendation and respect!” Thyroid Center of Santa Monica welcomes your call and looks forward to serving patients and their physicians. To request a consultation, please call our office at (310) 393-8860 or email to thyroidmanager@protonmail.com

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